sn41.8:3.1 “What do you think, sir?
sn41.8:3.2 Which is better—knowledge or faith?”
sn41.8:3.3 “Knowledge is definitely better than faith, householder.”
sn41.8:3.4 “Well sir, whenever I want, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, I enter and remain in the first absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of seclusion, while placing the mind and keeping it connected.
sn41.8:3.5 And whenever I want, as the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled … I enter and remain in the second absorption.
sn41.8:3.6 And whenever I want, with the fading away of rapture … I enter and remain in the third absorption.
sn41.8:3.7 And whenever I want, giving up pleasure and pain … I enter and remain in the fourth absorption.
sn41.8:3.8 And so, sir, since I know and see like this, why should I rely on faith in another ascetic or brahmin who claims that
sn41.8:3.9 there is a state of immersion without placing the mind and keeping it connected; that there is the cessation of placing the mind and keeping it connected?”