mn90:14.1 When he said this, General Viḍūḍabha said to the Buddha,
mn90:14.2 “Sir, will the gods who are afflicted topple or expel from their place the gods who are unafflicted?”
mn90:14.3 Then Venerable Ānanda thought,
mn90:14.4 “This General Viḍūḍabha is King Pasenadi’s son,
mn90:14.5 and I am the Buddha’s son.
mn90:14.6 Now is the time for one son to confer with another.”
mn90:14.7 So Ānanda addressed General Viḍūḍabha,
mn90:14.8 “Well then, general, I’ll ask you about this in return, and you can answer as you like.
mn90:14.9 What do you think, general?
mn90:14.10 As far as the dominion of King Pasenadi of Kosala extends, where he rules as sovereign lord, can he topple or expel from that place any ascetic or brahmin, regardless of whether they are good or bad, or whether or not they are genuine spiritual practitioners?”
mn90:14.11 “He can, worthy.”
mn90:14.12 “What do you think, general?
mn90:14.13 As far as the dominion of King Pasenadi does not extend, where he does not rule as sovereign lord, can he topple or expel from that place any ascetic or brahmin, regardless of whether they are good or bad, or whether or not they are genuine spiritual practitioners?”
mn90:14.14 “He cannot, worthy.”
mn90:14.15 “What do you think, general?
mn90:14.16 Have you heard of the gods of the thirty-three?”
mn90:14.17 “Yes, worthy,
mn90:14.18 I’ve heard of them,
mn90:14.19 and so has the worthy King Pasenadi.”
mn90:14.20 “What do you think, general?
mn90:14.21 Can King Pasenadi topple or expel from their place the gods of the thirty-three?”
mn90:14.22 “King Pasenadi can’t even see the gods of the thirty-three, so how could he possibly topple or expel them from their place?”
mn90:14.23 “In the same way, general, the gods who are afflicted can’t even see the gods who are unafflicted, so how could they possibly topple or expel them from their place?”