mn85:13.1 So I approached Uddaka son of Rāma and said to him,
mn85:13.2 ‘Reverend, to what extent did Rāma say he’d realized this teaching with his own insight?’
mn85:13.3 When I said this, Uddaka son of Rāma declared the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.
mn85:13.4 Then it occurred to me,
mn85:13.5 ‘It’s not just Rāma who had faith,
mn85:13.6 energy,
mn85:13.7 mindfulness,
mn85:13.8 immersion,
mn85:13.9 and wisdom; I too have these things.
mn85:13.10 Why don’t I make an effort to realize the same teaching that Rāma said he had realized with his own insight?’
mn85:13.11 I quickly realized that teaching with my own insight, and lived having achieved it.
mn85:13.12 So I approached Uddaka son of Rāma and said to him,
mn85:13.13 ‘Reverend, had Rāma realized this teaching with his own insight up to this point, and declared having achieved it?’
mn85:13.14 ‘He had, reverend.’
mn85:13.15 ‘I too have realized this teaching with my own insight up to this point, and live having achieved it.’
mn85:13.16 ‘We are fortunate, reverend, so very fortunate
mn85:13.17 to see a venerable such as yourself as one of our spiritual companions!
mn85:13.18 So the teaching that Rāma had realized with his own insight, and declared having achieved it, you’ve realized with your own insight, and dwell having achieved it.
mn85:13.19 The teaching that you’ve realized with your own insight, and dwell having achieved it, Rāma had realized with his own insight, and declared having achieved it.
mn85:13.20 So the teaching that Rāma directly knew, you know, and the teaching you know, Rāma directly knew.
mn85:13.21 Rāma was like you and you are like Rāma.
mn85:13.22 Come now, reverend! You should lead this community.’
mn85:13.23 And that is how my spiritual companion Uddaka son of Rāma placed me in the position of a tutor and honored me with high praise.
mn85:13.24 Then it occurred to me,
mn85:13.25 ‘This teaching doesn’t lead to disillusionment, dispassion, cessation, peace, insight, awakening, and extinguishment. It only leads as far as rebirth in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.’
mn85:13.26 Realizing that this teaching was inadequate, I left disappointed.