Devadahasutta

mn101:15.1 But since this is not the case,

mn101:15.3 aren’t you experiencing painful, sharp feelings due only to your own exertion, which out of ignorance, unknowing, and confusion you misconstrue to imply:

mn101:15.4 “Everything this individual person experiences—pleasurable, painful, or neutral—is because of past deeds. …”?’

mn101:15.7 When I said this, I did not see any legitimate defense of their doctrine from the Jains.